Kate Geruntho Frank
The Damned Story: We’ve all seen it while driving along either Route 8 or I-84 through Waterbury: the huge cross high atop Pine Hill. Many already know about it, but the 50-foot high cross marks the spot that was once was—and once again may be—Holy Land USA.
Like a biblical epic, there have been times of triumph and times of despair for this destination. Even though more recently the 18-acre park has suffered through decades of disrepair, there was a time in the 1960s and 70s when the attraction drew 40,000 visitors per year—picture a Wally World for the religious faithful, without a Tilt-a-Whirl. After receiving a message from his god in the 1950s, local attorney John Greco singlehandedly created the park as an homage to the Holy Land in Israel, fashioning miniature versions of Bethlehem and Jerusalem from chicken wire, plywood, fiberglass and plaster as well as adding dioramas of other key biblical locales. By the time he was done, he had created over 200 unique structures.
Holy Land USA officially closed in 1984. (“Sorry kids, Holy Land is closed. The messiah out front should have told you.”) The park, left by Greco in his will to an order of nuns (the Religious Teachers Fillipini), was officially closed to the public, but the curious—and the vandals—still made pilgrimages. When we visited in 2009, most of the displays and exhibits were either crumbling or in complete ruin, yet there was something about the slow decline of the place that continues to make it compelling.
In April 2008, the old iconic neon cross was taken down and replaced with a shorter, more durable one, although it didn’t light up quite like the old one. I guess you could say the spirit had gone out of the place.
Tragically in July 2010, a 16-year-old girl was raped and murdered on the grounds, prompting tighter security.
In June 2013, former Waterbury mayor Neil O’Leary and car dealer Fred “Fritz” Blasius purchased the property from the Filippini Sisters for $350,000. The pair announced that they were going refurbish the park and run it once again as a tourist attraction. To that end, a new illuminated cross was erected in November 2013, and the grounds were spruced up a bit.
As it turns, the effort to officially re-open Holy Land USA has fallen by the wayside in recent years, so the parks still sits empty.
However, the giant cross continues to light the darkness of the valley each night, standing silent vigil to one man’s grand dream.
Our Damned Experience: As mentioned, we made the pilgrimage to Holy Land USA in April 2009, and after getting permission to visit from the nuns of the order who owned the property at the time, were able to roam about freely and take as many pictures as we like. And being photo freaks, we snapped away to our hearts’ content—see the gallery below.
As we expected, Holy Land was in a state of great disrepair. Many of the faded structures were either crumbling or had been destroyed by vandals, creating an almost literal post-apocalyptic feel, what with the religious overtones and all. Broken mortar, splintered beams, smashed walls and exposed chicken wire littered the site—along with a lot of actual litter. Seeing the site was a bit of a disjointed shamble to start with, the ensuing deterioration hadn’t helped any.
Despite how decrepit it was, it was hard to not be impressed at the fevered effort Greco must have expended bringing his religious vision to life. Many of the small-scale buildings and shrines were randomly grouped together, and it was clear he gave a lot of attention to detail. With how many structures there were and how much of the hillside it encompasses, it was sort of amazing and weird at the same time to consider that it was all the work of one person.
At the top of the hill to north were three crosses representing Cavalry Hill, while a short distance to the south and looming over all of Holy Land was the aforementioned second shiny cross. It wasn’t as big as the original, and it was a bit harder to see from various points down in the valley (such as Route 8 or I-84). It was still impressive in its own right. The view of the surrounding area from the top of the hill was also impressive.
As you might think, it was bittersweet to see such a wonderfully weird place as Holy Land USA in that state of ruin—without a doubt, it must’ve been quite a moving sight in its heyday.
If You Go: Holy Land is on Slocum Road in Waterbury. Even with the recent redemption effort, it’s still not open to the public.
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Holy Land USA got some national coverage back in 2002. After watching this, you will think it is even more bizzare. It even left Stephen Colbert speechless.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=112406&title=colbert-shrine-of-the-times
That’s freaking hysterical! I’m going to embed it in the post. Thank you…
Hahaha so funny…
That is a funny video. Holy Land has entranced so many of us even in its decrepit condition. My CD AMERICAN BRASS includes a song Holy Land, USA.
Check local news – girl was just murdered there
Hey guys me and my friend went but missed out on half of the place due to a Murder that had happened just a few days ago…Out of respect I told the nun I would post here and advise people not to go for a while sorry…Anyone parking near or around the area will be towed and police will be called. =/ I posted the pictures on my Facebook if anyone wants to see what its like a little may go back when the nun says its ok (out of respect and all you know.)
Hello guys, I was wondering if someone could tell me who owns this place, and how to contact them.
I want to see if i can get permission to use the grounds for a day or two.
Thanks,
– Ghost, Shadow Ops Airsoft 1st in command.
I took a trip here and asked the nuns for permission but apparently there was a murder here this past july & they are very adiment about no longer allowing ppl to pass @ own risk the nun i spoke with feels had ppl not tresspassed the murder never wouldve happened.. 🙁
I went there today. It is clearly posted that viloators will be prosecuted. I called the nuns from Holy Lnad COnvent on Slocum street. She was very stern about no trespassing and not giving persmission to anyone. She stated to me that something very bad happened there and something evil is in that place, for my own safety she cannot give permission. Its a shame one had to ruin it for all. Maybe in the future things will change but at this time after what has happened we have to respect their wishes.
Went up there today with a friend. The nun’s quarters at the entrance although kept up do not seem to be lived in so we did not attempt to ask permission. We would have gone in anyway, but there are two residential houses right at the entrance and there is not getting around passing these houses and potentially being spotted by the owners. Also, your car will be spotted like a sitting duck at the entrance gate so keep this in mind if going.
I just got home from going there with my friend Sam. The nuns did not answer the door so we just went up anyways. As soon as you walk into the woods you can tell that some spirit or force does NOT want you there. You get a bad feeling when you’re there, as if something is trying to get you out. When you’re up at the huge cross the feeling isnt nearly as strong, but when you head back down into the woods it comes back. When going back through the woods to the car my friend stopped and told me she had heard footsteps that did not belong to us.
If anyone could find a phone number for the nuns to contact, that would be great. I live quite a way from this location and I’d hate to go there just to be spurned away. I would love to get the chance to go though. Thanks!
The nuns won’t let you go up because there was a murder there in July 2010. If you want to go you’ll have to sneak up, which honestly isn’t that hard. Just be careful, there’s a bad presence in the woods that does not want you there.
VictoriaG. Is it posted “No Trespasssing” or anything like that? I’m not fond of bringing my group onto private property without permission. As for the murder, I saw that but was still hoping to get the chance to call or go there myself and talk to them. Maybe you could show us the way and accompany us on a trip?
Yes, there are a few no trespassing signs put up. What kind of group is it? And I would love to accompany you!
My group is a paranormal research group, based out of Pawcatuck, CT. You can view it by clicking on my name at the top of this post. We’d love to have you with us. BUT, I will not go into any area that is marked “No Trespassing” as I don’t want bad publicity for us. IF you could show us to the nuns area, then I will try to talk to them myself to get permission. With that, you are more than welcome to come with us.
The nuns will not let you go on the property. They do live in the convent and are adament about calling the police if anyone is seen there. You can call Holy Land Convent in Waterbury (its in the directory) if you want to try, who knows maybe you will say the right thing t convince them! I have been there recently and attempted again to gain permission from the nuns as my group..also paranormal investigators out of VT would like to go and explore this place. I see that it would be easy to “sneak” in but we also do not want the bad publicity. There has to be a way to again either a permit of some sort for the night or maybe help the nuns somehow…any ideas would be appreciated!
I’ve heard that since a girl was killed there that they have made it off limits. But make sure to call them “sister” when you talk to them.
I don’t think they are worried so much about people walking and taking pictures, but are worried about publicity of any kind.
They are very adiment about not letting people up there… i just wanted to take pictures as well…& while she thanked me for being respectful & asking permission she made it clear that they didnt want anyone going up there…that it is evil had & that if the kids had respected the sign then the murder never wouldve occured there….i offered to do some type of community service even & she still said no….its a shame really
Kristi~How can they think that if the kids didn’t go there, the murder wouldn’t have happened? How do we know this guy didn’t have this planned and was merely looking for a spot? No one can ever say definitively that an area made the difference in the crime happening or not. You are talking borderline possession by saying that and that is wrong because the blame is being taken away from him and placed in the paranormal. I would love to talk with the sisters. Even if I do get a no, I’m no worse off than I am now; its’ worth a shot anyways.
Michael~ give it a shot. When I called she explained the murder and said that something evil lurks there..thats there is a dark presence and that they used to let people go in and take pictures but they cannot give permission anymore because they do not want to be responsible. The nun I spoke with said specifically ” something is in there, we are not sure what but it is very evil…” I then asked who was in charge of the place as I wanted to take it to the top and try and explain about my group and why we were interested and she said she was the one who was in charge. Good luck keep us posted. We are going to try again in the spring..Its a fine and a tresspass notice if you dont get permission just so you know.
Carrie W~I’m thinking of going with a liability form, stating that they will not be responsible at all for any and all actions and occurrences. I will definitely keep everyone posted and updated as we figure this all out. Thanks!
PS. We would never go into any place without permission but thanks for the notice about the fines anyways.
I agree, a liability form would be best and I respect you for not trespassing. However the nuns are right, there is evil in those woods that does not want you there. I have felt it and heard it myself; my friend possibly has a picture of something. Whatever is in those woods follows you, or just consumse the area. I did however notice that “feeling” went away when my friend and I were standing on the base of the giant cross, even though the girl was murdered right there. (Didnt know about that until I came home that evening.)
Michael–Are you thinking of conducting a day or nighttime search?
@ Michael i was just mearely relaying what was stated to me ….
Kristi~ I understand and wasn’t going after you in that response. It was just the way they had said it that sounded very wrong to me.
VictoriaG~I wonder what the reasoning for the evil feelings there are caused from. That would be something to figure out and get to the bottom of. If allowed, I would prefer to do both a daytime search for photos and such and a nighttime for more photos, evps, etc.
you guys need to understand this. a girl was murdered there. All of you are thalking about sneaking in and suck, and thats a joke to me. Im only seventeen, and i understand that. That girl was a friend of mine. Stop talking about the place like its some mystreious attraction. Of course theres something evil there. The fact that its a playground for kids my age. You people look down on the teens that tresspass on your properties, and yet you do the same. And dtop talking about chloe like you know her, because her family and friends read these comments, and it hirts.
Amanda,
I am sorry for the loss of your friend. That is truley a terrible tragedy. None of us were talking about her in a negative way nor were we implying that we know here or anythinga bout her. Holy Land is considered a “Hot Spot” for paranormal activity. Some are looking to debunk the rumors of paranormal activity and prove that it does not exist, some want to help put the spirts if there are any to rest and some are just curious about the place as people were allowed to visit for a long time and now are not. Holy Land was once a theme park of sorts and attracted thousands a year. There was never any disrespect intended toward your friend “Chloe”. the professionals liek myself and Michael are looking to gain permission to visit the park and conduct professional investigations. We may be able to help what ever evil lies there find peace. As you can see by our post several of us have contacted the nuns even trying to gain permission to enter. Again there was never any disrespect to your friend intended and only a purely professional interest in Holy Land as a site of Paranomal Activity.
I have gone to Holy Land once by myself and just parked my car in front of the gate. There is graffiti everywhere there, probably because its located off Baldwin St. in the south end of Waterbury where the crime is pretty high. This was was before the murder, the place just seemed like an abandoned place. However gun town cemetery in Naugatuck is a place to visit. As for the girl talking about her friend, if you read the posts you’d see that no one was talking about sneaking into the place. Also learn to type, or learn proper English. I know they don’t teach you much in Waterbury. Also the reason why the girl was found murdered there was because the guy thought he could get away with it, but thanks to people that are interested in the place for paranormal activity the girl was found.
She wasn’t found by paranormal investigators, she was found by police after the son of a bitch admitted his guilt and led them to her. So, don’t go off on rants at people that are just sensitive because their friend recently passed in a brutal way. There is no reason to question her intelligence or spelling ability. She’s just upset, and it’s understandable.
I would really like to visit Holy Land, too, and it really blows that some asshole had to do something so horrible, thus preventing further investigation of the place…
I grew up on the hill across the river from Holy Land and could see the cross directly across the valley from my back porch window. Both creepy and fascinating when you are 3 years old. Visited a couple of times when I was very young, then had recurrent dreams about the place (and still do). The approach up Pine Hill and even the air space between where I lived and HL have had dream significance. Would love to explore it further.
Years ago I went up to Holy Land with my family. At that time it was a busy tourist attraction .Thre was even a couple food venders . To see the place was really somthings…….An undergroung ” grotto” was added a few years later.
BUT now it is in a sad state. THE NUNS THAT LIVE THERE WANTED TO FIX IT UP AND HAD HIRED A CARPENTER AND MY HUSBAND TO DO SOME MINOR WORK. They ( the nuns) asked for and received itemize lists for building materials used. But that was not good enough for them. They were very suspicious and for no reason I might add. Both men did not ask to be paid for their work. Both did the job requested of them then did no more because of the treatment .
They did live on the grounds at that time, I don’t know if they still do.
A new cross stands where the old one sat. I have not been up there since my husband worked there. I do not plan t go to see the new cross. It is shameful to see it at night. I used to love seeing that old cross especially during Lent when that cross was purple. Depending on the church season the cross would be green or red ( too ) . I don’t know if there is anyone round that remembers the cross having different lights?
I don’t know about anything evil there? I wouldn’t be surprised though………….
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Are they still not letting people in? My friend and I are extremely interested in going, as is my brother, and it’s a shame to let such a beautiful site go to waste.
Actually there have been two murders there. Recently was the girl (R.I.P) and back in the early 90’s was a young man who was stabbed to death by a “friend” of his because he wouldn’t give him money to go get drugs. Sad sad place.
Hello, I have read all of these posts. Very interesting. I am also wondering if people are aloud to photograph this area again. I am from FL. and will be taking a road trip around New England for a few weeks and would love to stop here. Please let me know if anything new is going on.
I went about a year ago, there were about a dozen other people on the grounds wondering about- no one seemed to mind the foot traffic.. not sure if things have changed since then. Definitely don’t go alone and don’t go at night, that side of waterbury is not the safest.
SC, DId you have to talk to the nuns first?
Went here less than a week ago with 3 other people. Since we knew the nuns wouldn’t let us in, we though it would be best to sneak in at night and not call beforehand to ask for permission. We tried the woods first but after a while we all decided to just try our luck walking past the nun’s houses and go right in through the gate past the ‘no tresspassing’ signs.
We got in after like 1am and walked around a lot….. we went right up to the cross, and around the little village like place inside… but nothing happened at all. None of us felt any presence or anything, and we tried to do some evp’s and also got nothing. We definitely felt no evil force like VictoriaG mentioned… which sucked because we all wanted something weird to happen. The place isn’t creepy or anything, it’s just been abandoned and has a lot of grass and weeds growing everywhere, a lot of graffiti in some places.. the only thing that was even slightly weird was that there were some rocks placed in a circle at the base of the cross like someone deliberately put them there, but that’s not even really that odd; it was probably to honor someone who died there.
After leaving we all agreed that the place isn’t haunted, and if you think about it, only two people died there. All this trip did was make me more interested in going to an abandoned hospital or insane asylum because at least there you know hundreds or thousands of people had to have died in agony, which would make a much better breeding ground for any sort of ghosts or whatever.
I don’t care about ghost, I just wanna take photos…in the day. 🙁 I’m pretty much crossed this off my road trip stops.
April….it really isnt that hard to get into during the day as long as don’t go in the late afternoon. I’m pretty sure they are active nuns, meaning they’re out teaching during the day. When my friend and I went it was around 1pm on a Tuesday. We knocked on every single door and no one answered (there was even a car in their garage.) I think you should be fine to go! Please let me know if I can help in any way!
I’m going to be taking this road trip alone and I heard it’s not a safe area…IDK
April-
I live in CT and my friend and I have been wanting to visit here. If you’re scared of the area and want some CT natives at your side we’d be happy to accompany you if we can.
I would LOVE that! I’m planning the trip in the beginning of Oct. A road trip all around New England. I JUST LOVE photographing abandoned places!!!! Early morning might be a good time to go?
I will most likely be in school then, but I’ll give my brother a yell and he’d love to go I’m sure. He’s a photographer himself.
If you like I can show you the way. I went in December and would love to go again!
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you guys know?! i went up there hundreds of times, before it got vandalized, what a beautifull peacefull place to be!!!!! went there after it was all ruinsand very sad!!!! but it was still a very a verry peacefull place.. just very sad… i live in townplot right across the city from holyland… i don’t see the cross at night any more……..sad!!! the day the girl got killed both my husband and i saw smoke coming fron ther and the next day we heard what happened i feel so bad for her and her family and friends….. why does every one want to go up there after this tragedy??????? you people should went there when it was beautiful or even when it wasen’t because of some jurks that distroid the place. there is no evil up there!!!!!only that evil goes up there!!! that is itthe place didn’t do it!!!!! a evil person did it!!!! so u people stop being sooooo interested going up there now just because a girl lost her life there realy!!!! for GOD saks!!!! cut it out and for the paranormal groups.. there is nothing paranormal up there, go in some street corner where someone got murder..it’s the same thing nothinging paranormal there either let everything rest in peace!!!!!!
to everybody that is coming on a trip to new ingland to investigate paranormal stuff , you guys have to go to dudley town!!!! that place is definatly hunted!!!!!! i’ve been there once and beleve me!!! i will not go back!!!! the cripiest and weird place i have ever been!!!!! and i grew up in a hunted house!!!! we saw and heard ghoasts all the time!! nothing conpared to duddly town!! not sure if i am spelling it right!!!! good luck!!!!
In all fairness I had NO idea anyone had been murdered when I went up there, I actually found out from my mum right after my friend and I had left.
Ana could you possibly describe what you experienced at Dudley Town? If not I understand completely.
Ana, I’m a photographer. The only interest I ever had with this place is the fact that it’s ruins (which I love). I didn’t even KNOW people died there when I first heard about this place….and I still wanted to go photograph it.
I can deal with a little “evil” btw…..
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I just don’t know how someone could think that it isn’t disrespectful to sneak into this place and to stand in the spot that a 16 year old girl was killed, investigating paranormal activity or to photograph the area. This tragedy happened recently..not 10 years ago or even 5 years ago..Think of the Ottman family…Think of how they must feel; their daughter’s death becoming an investigation into the paranormal. This is too fresh a wound. Give it time before you start your investigations. Let them grieve the loss of their daughter and respect and honor a violent crime scene.
And for clarification purposes: Chloe was killed beneath the cross. Strangled to unconsciousness because she denied her “friend’s” advances, violently raped, strangled till death when she started gasping during the rape, and then stabbed in the neck until her “friend” was sure she was dead. Then her body was taken to the woods and left there.
I apologize for being so graphic but sometimes I think if y’all knew the real details of this case, you wouldn’t be so pushy and interested in investigating it.
And remember Chloe…she put up a fight and that what agitated her killer. The more she fought back the more vicious he became. Honor her memory and her bravery. She was an incredible human being.
Sorry, but I still don’t find it “disrespectful” that I want to photograph an area just because someone died there. I’m sure she was great, but people die everywhere all the time…If I go with your logic, then I would never take photos in my house because someone died here. Really?!
Oh, and theses paranormal groups usually want to give the wandering soul peace. That’s not disrespectful either…
except paranormal groups are usually actors scamming the “minds” of the naive (thus the cameras following all these groups around, surprise!), or they’ve simply fooled themselves into believing they can overcome the so called “darkness” with their limited human “powers” and limited human understanding of the “other side”.. also, God is the only whom can give you peace, which comes BEFORE death!
Have there been any recent attempts at going up there. I have always been facinated with the place and just never made it up there before the horrible tragedy. I however love photography to no end and i love ruins so this place would be perfect, is there a phone number to contact the nuns. No disrespect just want some pictures
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Easiest way there is if you know the area go to one way st ridge st, that first right its a dead end park then walk up through the woods,,, be careful, but that is the easiest, or just before you get on ridge st on sylvan ave theres a spot near the condos there you can walk up thats the far way in,,and yes back in the 70’s Waterbury was beautiful,,so was Holy land or we use to callit, Pine Hill
bergin st and or stone look up ridge st here
http://www.realtor.com/property-search/Waterbury_CT/Sylvan-Ave
THE PLACE IS UP FOR SALE. IT WAS IN THE LOCAL PAPER TODAY. I THOUGHT THE PROPERTY DEED SAID IT HAS TO STAY HOLYLAND. I AM SEARCHING FOR THE GROUP STARTED BY A FRANK DAVINO TO PURCHASE, FIX, KEEP HOLYLAND
As a kid I lived next to Holy Land and used to go up there all the time. It was a peaceful place.
I remember going with my grandfather one day and just before it got dark he sat and started praying I walked up further and saw a little red tricycle riding on it’s own, I ran back to my grandfather and didn’t say a word.
The next day I went back with my cousins and we walked to the cross and the little red bike was locked in it.
I honestly hope they rebuild it to what it used to be, but I doubt that will ever happen since the last time they tried it just got vandalized as soon as something was fixed.
i live in vernon, ct and pass it twice a week…i always wondered what that cross was from the highway…my father told me about it and ever since i would love to visit and dudleytown???? THAT PLACE IS CREEPY but they cracked down on security hardcore on that abandoned town so i dont suggest going there, check out the abandoned insane asylum in norwich, CT there tunnels that connect all the buildings underground, its about 10 minutes away from the casinos
Hey April, I’m not sure if you are still reading this page since your trip is coming up soon (hopefully!) but if you are interested in abandoned places, check out the Hearthstone Castle in Danbury CT, you can find it on this site. It is beautiful and only about 30-45 minutes from Holy Land, and very easy to get to. I wish I could be in CT again, I miss the weird stuff. Also check out Fairfield Hills, it is still being used I think for administrative buildings, but its weird. Hope you have fun!
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Holy land is up for sale, 775.000 will get you 18 acres, and a spokie (I don’t believe that) I have lived here my whole life have no idea where you people are getting that info. lived born and raised 1 second from the entrance Never heard it is spokie except for you people on here..as for the little red wagon or bike you must have been dreaming,
http://www.wfsb.com/story/15256508/for-sale-holy-land
call the nuns tell them you are interested in buying it..
http://www.friendsoftarrywilepark.org/the-manson
HOLYLAND HAS ALOT OF NEGATIVE ENERGY IN IT ,IM A PSYCHIC AND I HAVE MANY GIFT AND ABILITIES , AND I ALSO HELP SPIRITS COSSOVER INTO PEACE . I HELPED CHLOE CROSS SHE IS AT PEACE AT LAST,SHE WAS ONE OF THE SWEETEST SPIRITS IV’E MET SO FAR SHE EVEN GUIDED ME TO WHERE EVERYTHING TOOK PLACE THAT WAS HEARTBREAKING I COULD FEEL HER PAIN THROUGH ME,I’M ALSO AN EMPATH, BUT THERE ARE SOOOO MANY GOOD AND BAD SPIRITS THERE! I WOULD HAVE TO SAY HOLYLAND IS CURSED!!! BUT IT WON’T STOP ME FROM HELPING SPIRITS LIKE CHLOE THAT NEED ME.
Hi all, I went up there one night last weekend with a couple of friends. We parked on the side of the road near the gates, and snuck up the path. We only got a little ways up the path – through the trees – before I started to get a very unsettling feeling. As we walked further, we started to hear little rustling noises in the trees and so we ducked off to the side of the path and waited a few minutes. Then all of a sudden we heard a loud bang, just like a door being slammed shut. We waited a few more minutes and then snuck back out. I wasn’t expecting to feel such negative energy there, but I really did! Was planning on going back during the day to ask the nuns if I could take some photos but it sounds like they are no longer giving permission. 🙁 Would love to go back sometime though – before it’s sold… There were realtor signs posted across the gates.
I have a beautiful pic of the old cross check it out http://www.cafepress.com/_cross_ I went there with my ex-wife and step daughter … It may have been before we were married so Im guessing 1999 .. saw an old mattress in a manger with some canned food .. guessing a homeless person at the time … yes I felt the presence of both Good and evil there. It was awesome at the foot of the cross .. walking through the paths definately felt an uneasy presense felt like someone was watching closely, for all I know it may have been the homeless person. But it felt deeper than that. I prayed hard for the city of Waterbury. It was like the battle of good and evil that was going on in the city was of the same magnitude that was present in Holy Land. I believe it to be more of demonic presence than that of a soul that needs to find its way. That big ole Cross touched a lot of people, not just the people in Waterbury, but the thousands who used to drive by on 84 wether by themselves or with families all acknowledging the Big ole Cross on the Hill! Check it out .. http://www.cafepress.com/_cross_
Please read the posts before asking the same questions over, and over, and over, and over……
Oh and the “psychic”, Bella? Bringing up Chloe to try to better your ridiculous nonsense, was very disrespectful. Spirits don’t need you, an English professor needs you.
As for the Dudley Town comments, I live about 10 minutes away. I have been going there since I was an early teen, and my parents went before me. Everyone I know had gone at least once in their lives. No one ever saw anything, ever, at all. Creepy there? Yes. Of course. It’s a very dark forest that you expect to be haunted. Thanks to trespassers setting it on fire years back, it is now closed (because it’s private property), and if caught you will be prosecuted. There are a few ways in, but all heavily watched, and heavily posted, and gated.
Don’t get the impression I am a skeptic. I have witnessed several paranormal phenomenon. You are barking up the wrong tree with these places though.
I was at the site an immeasurable number of times in the 50’s and 60’s. I wrote about the site in my book series American Wop. http://www.AmericanWop.com
My Grandfather and others helped build the edifice for the purpose of good and to show the importance of working together to promote good things in the community. His ideals were squashed by big business and drug addiction that started to afflict Waterbury and the surrounds starting in the 1960’s.
He even stressed the importance of the message that this Holy Site was supposed to impart on our community and the world. He even threw in some measure of his own sin to demonstrate some of the pitfalls of his life so others would beware. He even said that I should do my part to keep it open. The big purpose – the community service that I have not completed yet. The money from this place was supposed to go to helping needy children.
It was never properly finished and was designed to be a work in progress. I remember pulling garbage and others stuff out of the park when I was very little. I also remember never paying to get in. I met met Greco a few times at some events in the area and was saddened when the infirmities of these older religious people thwarted their message delivery. I could not do them justice and free the area of as much pain as they did.
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Not much to say, but been here, the nuns would not permit me even though they know my affiliation with the Roman Catholic Church as a past altar girl not too far from the town. I heard of the murder, but I did not think it had anything to do with trespassers. Something told me it was nothing about stupid teenagers, something was planned. The nuns have no other person to blame other than the trespassers because to their knowledge, no one else has been a problem for them other than the trespassers. They live on the convent, and if you speak to the right nun, please call her “Sister” out of respect, some will tell you it is not a good place to be at the moment, though the repeatedly say that because of the trespassing laws. Some sisters say that they would not like to further a conversation about anything to do with the theme park itself. It depends on the sister you speak to, really. I had my first driving test in this town and couldn’t help but look at the cross and stop by.
It is really sad that the holy land is destroy. I was just looking at some old photo albums and saw some pics of my family when I was little girl my Grandma took me there. I had mention to my mom if she remember where it was located that I wanted to go visit. I am saddend to know what it has become. I remember feeling the peace as a child visiting there.
HOLY LAND MUST BE REDONE AND RECONSTRUCTED AS ORIGINALY FINISHED BY JOHN!!THERE IS NO MORE TIME LEFT TO DELAY AND PLAY WITH GOD’S HOLY LAND. EVERY0NE IN THE CITY ,STATE AND RELIGIOUS NEEDS TO PUT THEIR EGOS ASIDE AND GET CHRISTIAN AGAIN. THE TIME WE ALL SPEND ON FOOLISH THINGS CAN BE SPENT BY KEEPING THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED IN WATERBURY ALIVE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS TO ENJOY . WE NEED HOLY LAND ,NOW!!! IT IS A SIN OF THE HIGHEST ORDER THAT THIS SACRED GROUND GOES THE WAY OF EVIL AND DECAY. SHAME ON ALL OF US , WE NEED TO STAND READY TO FIGHT AND SAVE HOLY LAND AND THE SHRINE OF THE “VERGIN OF REVELATION!!! GOD NOR ANY ONE IS HAPPY OVER THIS MESS. I AM READY AGAIN TO HELP ARE YOU ALL???
I am willing to volunteer time to help build holy land again. Keep me posted.
My Grandfather Frank Rocco helped to build the Holy Land. He was born in Waterbury at the turn of the century during the 1890’s and had great stories once.
I wrote about his life … If anyone is interested go to my site http://www.AmericanWop.com and send me an email.
The Holy Land was never finished and it’s purpose was to supply work for kids… to get them off the streets.
Anyway drop me a line.
I KNEW YOUR GRANDFATHER , GREAT GUY, AS WERE THEY ALL WHO HELPED , WORKED AND PRAYER FOR HOLY LAND AND WATERBURY. THEY CAN NEVER BE REPLACED. WE MUST FINISH HOLY LAND AND SECURE THE SHRINE OF THE VERGIN. I ONLY HOPE AND PRAY THAT THE SHRINE IS STILL THERE? THE SHRINE IS THE KEY TO IT ALL. MAYBE SOME DAY WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS WHERE TO GO FROM HERE, IAM READY!!
Hello Frank
AS YOU KNOW THIS SIDE OF THE FAMILY ARENT PRACTICING CATHOLICS BUT THE FACT THAT I AM TALKING TO YOU IS MIRACLE ENOUGH! PLEASE EMAIL Wop@AmericanWop.com
There is no such thing as a holy land. The only Holy place on earth is in your own mind. When your mind is Holy, everything you see will reflect that Holiness.
Tear everything down and make a nice quiet park with trees and gardens and benches so one can sit, contemplate, and look out over the city.
Deborah I can’t agree less of course unless you meant the big Holy Land Experience in Orlando. We need small local parks and the Holy Land Waterbury should be rebuilt and also returned back to nature as much as possible. Let’s bring visitors back to Waterbury and put the kids hanging out on the streets to work repairing it as it was designed for. The land is mostly rocky and is dry. I don’t know how green the top of this mountain could be. If we restored and grew interest in this antique maybe we could green it up also with a few windmills and ponds.
Let’s hope for the best. Other parks I remember in the area have nearly been destroyed lacking all of their former glory. Something is wrong!
DEAR DEBORAH , THERE IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE ‘ HOLY LANDS’ IN EVERY PART OF THE WORLD . THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT IN ONES MIND GOD , OR HOLY LAND CAN NOT EXIST. THESE HL ARE WHERE JESUS WAS BORN AND DIED FOR ASLL MANKINDS SINS , WHERE THE POPE LIVES , AND WHERE ALL PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD PRAY EVERY DAY IN THE HOLY CITY, OF COURSE BELIEVING IN GOD IS GOOD BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO ASSEMBLE AND PRAY WITH SUPPORT FROM WE WHO ARE STRONGER, CHILDREN NEED FAITH AND WE ALL NO MATTER WHO WE THINK WE ARE NEED GOD AND A HOLY PLACE , CHURCH, LAND OR WHAT EVER TO FEEL WE BELONG AND ARE DOING GODS WORK TO SERVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO PRAY. I UNDERSTAND , BUT WOULD LOVE YOUR HELP IF WE GO FOWARD WITH HOLY LAND.
Frank … Please send me a note. Hope your project proceeds.
Actually, my mother told me she heard it was rebuilt… It might have changed since then because we talked about 5 months ago about it. My mother believes it is in tact, she was there last year… How do we all know it’s destroyed?
It has been i bad shape for a long time. The last time I went with my Grandfather was in the late 60’s and various part were still in process. I remember my Grandfather coming back with the cement he called stucco all over him. I also remember carrying garbage from construction from inside to the the street.
I might take a look myself from afar… Or ask my mom where she had gotten that piece of information.
It would be great to know. More pictures…
I was there almost 2 years ago & took photos the place was in great disrepair while somethings are still intact but many have been destroyed, some by vandals while other structures are decaying & crumbling from neglect along with the elements of weather & time. Many statues are missing heads & or limbs ect. I was there in middle of a snow storm & didn’t see the catacombs but understand alot of that area is ruined. It’s kinda sad actually and forgive me to those this may offend but I am not a “religious” person but maybe more of a spiritual one yet I found this place quite impressive even in it’s poor state of disrepair. I do have to say how much I admire Mr. Greco’s determination & dedication, it’s quite remarkable what he created using a lot of recycled materials to boot… I wish I had the opportunity to see it in it’s prior state. It’s too bad that the area is off limits It would be great if maybe trails on the walking paths already there could be updated with some benches added as it’s quite nice up there with a beautiful overlook of the city despite my limited view that day in the snow. It would be nice to keep some of the remaining structures intact that dont pose a safety risk & have a nice park so some of the history stays while people can enjoy a nice park with a great overlook. Whatever ends up happening with the land there will be people that wont be happy as there’s no way to please everyone unfortunately that’s the case more often then not.
i was just at holy land in august. it was in very bad shape, and at the base of the cross is a memorial for Chloe Ottman where she was raped and murdered. she was only 16. there also a lot of broken bottles beside other things.
I hope something is done to make this site a wonderful place to worship or meditate. The trees look far bigger now and it looks much greener than I remember from the early 60’s. I would feel honored to be able to do something with this site for reasons other making a tourist trap or other glorified shopping ground. I am sure the Holy Land could and should be put to good use.
i heard alot of stories about holy land and other “haunted” places i walked threw holy land plenty of times took pictures n never felt any bad energy n i am a huge fan of paranormal things holy land is not haunted… as for the shape its horrible…. the guy that killed the girl according to the news he was drunk n high off of something so how is it holy lands fault he was a dick nwanted to kill her bcuz she didnt want him??? they need to stop all the lies n stories it isnt haunted … i went there last night at dead time n felt nothing it was another story that states they seen a woman in a blk drss at the gates… another lie… im gona look into buyin it n fixing it n maken it a place ppl can visit to learn about wtby n its tails
JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THERE IS A GROUP THAT HAS BEEN NEGO. FOR THE LAST 5 WKS. TO PURCHASE HOLY LAND AND DEVELOPMENT IT ASIT WAS ADDING MANY MORE GOOD AND HOLY USES TO IT. WE CAN NOT LET HOLY LAND GO TO A DEVELOPER WHO WILL CHANGE THE EXISTING USE. HOLY LAND MUST REMAIN HOLY LAND AND I WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.
HELLO FRANK:
THIS IS VERY GOOD TO HEAR. I AM SURE YOU WILL DO IT PROPERLY. IS IT GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL ATTRACTION. IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD TEAM WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY OR SIERRA CLUB TO MAKE IT PART OF A GREENWAY. I HOPE FOR THE BEST FRANK!!
A STORY OF CONNECTICUT
coming soon at:
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if anyones interested, ive been up there enough times to know there isnt anything paranormal at the site. i used to live there and spent time on the hill day and night, alone and with friends. its kind of spooky because of all the crosses and statues, but nothing paranormal. obv wont stop anyone from going and bullshitting around with cameras, catching fuzzy floaty things on video, but just keep in mind you’re just being paranoid mellow dramatic turds.
LMAO @ Ric and Frank…WHAT’S WITH THE CRAZY ALL CAPS?! Your religious…we got it…don’t scream it.
IT IS NOT JUST THAT WE ARE RELIGIOUS BUT RATHER THAT WE ARE OLD AND IN THE WAY AS MANY WOULD SAY. MY EYES AFTER YEARS OF HAZARDOUS WORK ARE NOT TOO GOOD AND BECAUSE OF OUR INFIRMITIES and THE DESECRATION AND CRAP SPREAD ABOUT THE HOLY LAND OUR TEXT’s MUST PREVAIL….IT IS TO SEPARATE GERBIL FROM POETRY. LETS SAVE THE HOLY LAND… HORAY FOR HOLYLAND 2013….
GO SHOUT IT ON A MOUNTAIN >>>>
Wow.
I’ll simmer down. What is your thought of the Holy Land…What should it become?
I heard something hasjust happened with the Holy Land! Does anyone have any information?
CAPS AGAIN EASER FOR ME TOTYPE FAST. THE OFFER I PUT IN WAS REFUSED AS OF LAST WEEK . I HAD OFFERED TO PURCHASE HOLY LAD AND MOVE ON TO REDO AS IT WAS BUT MUCH BETTER . I WILL CHECK WITH MY PEOPLE TO SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE HAPPENED.
Yes I hope the offer goes through Frank. We met many years ago but I cannot picture you then from your recent photographs. I hope the property can be used as a service to the community.
Just curious if anyone knows how to get permission to explore the site? I want to visit and see it but trespassing (even though apparently easy) makes me terrified. Can I email the sisters? Do they really let you in if you knock and ask? I just don’t want to drive all the way out only to turn back…
FRANK HAVE YOU TRIED ANY OF THE CROWD SOURCING FINANCING TECHNIQUES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE I MAY BE OF ASSISTANCE. IT DOES NOT COST ANYTHING AND IT IS POSSIBLE TO GAIN BACKERS, HELPERS, ADVERTISEMENT, AND GOOD NOTERIETY. THERE ARE A FEW SITES YOU CAN CROWDSOURCE ON. LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE DEAL!
please fix holy land. the guy who built it must have trusted the nuns but what happened so that it would be left to rot?
TO ALL HOLY LAND SUPPORTERS , I HAVE OFFERED WHAT I CONSIDER A FAIR PRICE FOR HOLY LAND , UP INTO THE HIGH MID $200,000 . ALL OFFERS WERE REFUSED . COME TO PASS THEY EVEN DENIED THAT A HOLY SHRINE EVER EXISTED THERE!! I DONT WANT TO GIVE UP , BUT I AM SICK OF GETTING MY HEAD HANDED TO ME EVERY TIME I DEAL WITH THE SISTERS. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL AND I WILL TRY ONLY ONCE MORE THIS YEAR , WITH THE LORD IN MIND. TXS FRANK
Frank for purchase and publicity which may coerce the Sisters to cooperate check out: http://mashable.com/2010/09/14/social-good-fund-online/
Crowd sourcing may be the best way to get your world out. Let me know what you intend to do with the Holy Land after you buy it!
The Catholics have plenty of money…. It should be a donation to a non profit Frank. Are you a Non Profit?
JACK, I HAVE MY ATTY. READY TO FILE FOR A NEW NP . THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED SO WE NEED TO KEEP UP DATED. THE CHURCH WILL NOT GIVE MONEY , I HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD SEVERAL YEARS AGO. MAYBE THINGS WILL CHANGE . FIRST WE NEED TO HAVE HOLY LAND , THEN ALL GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN
Jack Tar
http://www.AmericanWop.com
WOP@AmericanWop.com
I hope the best happens to the Waterbury area and I can genuinely say I am sorry about all the graft and corruption. I have heard over a centuries worth of information about the area which I am attempting to publish. If anyone has anything at all to say about Waterbury along with the HOLY LAND please feel free to tell me at the above address. Looking forward to hearing anything!
Is this place still around? I’ve heard rumors of it being bought out by developers.
Read the above posts and visit http://www.AmericanWop.com
Pet Peeve Time: Cavalry (as in “Cavalry Hill” in the article above): Cavalry refers to armed horsemen riding to the rescue… Here comes the Cavalry… in old movies.
The hill where Christ was crucified is Calvary.
HI, EVERYONE WE ARE BACK AGAIN READY TO BUY HOLY LAND AND REDO IT 100% I WILL KEEP YOU ALL UPDATED . WE NEED HELP IF WE GO FOWARD , ARE YOU ALL READY TO HELP AND FIGHT FOR HOLY LAND?? LET ME KNOW!!!
Leave the cross and the area around it and we will be str8
Let us pray. Thanks for the update. Let’s get her done.
Steve Chloe is not there anymore and neither is her spirit let them take down the evil and purify the land
Sorry , everyone got out bid for Holy Land. But the good thing is it will be protected and saved. Its not impt. who does it but that it gets done. i dont know if they will do it as we all would have , we will have to wait and see. Please help if they ask , its gods work and john G willbe happy . Txs for all your support , I am working on another project , i will let you know soon. FRANK
Hello all,
I am making a student documentary about Holy Land and I would love to meet personally, or hear any stories you have about Holy Land. I am looking into the purchase of Holy Land and the history. I am interested in all information concerning renovating/ reopening Holy Land. I am interested in opinions about the disrepair of Holy Land and the project to reinstall the neon cross.
Please contact me if you would like more information or if you would like to meet with me. I appreciate it. Any story would be much appreciated.
(Does anyone know Frank Davino’s contact information).
Thanks,
Devinne 🙂 My email: dg7855@bard.edu
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF YOU WHO WANT TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY. YOU CAN AT FRANKD@CARPIN .COM, WEB SITE IS FRANK DAVINO .COM, PHONE 203 233 2519 [CELL]. ALSO A NEW HOLY LAND DOCUMENTARY I WAS INTERVIEWED FOR YOU CAN SEE AT HTTPS:II VIMEO.COM/74419818, PASSWORD IS FRANK SMALL LETTERS. HOLY LAND IS KEY TO THE PEOPLE OF WATERBURY, I HAVE RECCOMENDED IT BE REHABED FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS . ALWAYS SUPPORT HOLY LAND , I DO!!! TXS FRANK
Hi folks,
I just wanted to say that I grew up with Holy Land as my backyard. It was a quick walk through the woods that surround it and we would come out at the big letters. As a child, the buses bringing people from all over the northeast would wake me. You could hear singing and there would be processions going through our neighborhood. There were blueberry bushes everywhere and I would go picking with my family. To this day, blueberries bring me back to Holy Land. It was beautiful and people loved it. I was heartbroken that someone was killed there. I’m sure many awful things have taken place there but my memories are of an amazing childhood.
Omayra they are renovating Holy Land now, new cross is going up and its getting a makeover.
If you want to feel something spiritual , Then visit holy land in Florida for all the right reasons. You will get 1000 more positive effects from that place. You will never be the same. It’s a shame that such a beloved place has fallen into such disrepair and exploited by curiosity seekers. For the sake of the Town, the nunnery should donate it to a non profit Christian Org. so they can rehabilitate it the same way they did with the Palace Theater. If you want evil just look all around you, there is no reason to go to Waterbury. Put your energy in to something more positive, like help the homeless or caring for the elderly. Being a productive member of society has is more rewarding.
WHERE IS THE STAINLESS STEEL CROSS THE SISTER PUT UP IN HOLY LAND NOT SO LONG AGO. COST WAS 275.00 , HOPE THEY DID NOT SCRAP IT !!!!! IT WOULD LOOK GREAT ON THR FAR EAST SIDE OF HOLY LAND. NEW CROSS LOOKS GREAT , SAME SIZE A ORIGINAL , WHERE IS THE CROSS , SOME ONE FIND OUT , LET ME KNOW, TXS FRANK DAVINO
TYPEO, COST WAS APROX, $275.000 SORRY, FRANK
In my opinion , the city of Waterbury with it own beauty , need to attract visitors , because it will increases the economy . The Holy Land , can bring people and it create , job and brings back the city to life . right now the unemployment rate is 13% . As the great Adventure is for New Jersey , The Holy Land can be for Waterbury . There might be investors , if the doors were open .
I AGREE , BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT AS THEY DID BEFORE HOLY LAND NEEDS TO REHABED AND REBUILT AS A WHOLE UNIT NOT JUST A CROSS. OUR PLAN WAS TO DO JUST THAT. A FIVE YEAR PLAN WITH A COST OF OVER $5,000,000.
the old cross is lying in the
the old cross is lying in the ground below the new one
They put up new cross that
They put up new cross that changes color, a couple months back. Better than the old one, and had a lighting of the cross where all were invited. It was good times. The South End isnt as bad as people make it out to be.I’ve lived in Waterbury my whole life and have never had a problem in the South End. The section is predominately hispanic. The police have done a tremendous job cleaning up the area, and getting the dealers off the corners. If your looking for trouble, trouble will find you in the South End, but if you mind your own business your more than likely to be fine. Just dont go alone, and keep your eyes open.
Is it still off limits to the
Is it still off limits to the public? Even if you call the nuns and ask permission?
So is it off limits still?
Are the nuns still not letting people in? And what do they do to you if they catch you trespassing?
Limited Access
There is a new project in the works to rehab Holy Land. The full details are limited, but opening it up to the public is the plan. Here is the website established by the new owners. http://www.holylandwaterbury.com/
Greco didn’t build the cross.
Greco didn’t build the cross. Joseph Jannetty did. Greco just funded it.
RIP Chloe
RIP Chloe
Access
Hello,
I am wondering if the nuns are allowing access again? I would like to come on Saturday afternoon to take some photos. Please contact me at keara507@ gmail .com if you have information.
Thank you,
Keara
No access to get into holy
No access to get into holy land ,there is a security camera and countless others on the property right as you drive in and one camera right at the gate,you will get arrested
No access to get into holy
No access to get into holy land ,there is a security camera and countless others on the property right as you drive in and one camera right at the gate,you will get arrested
A friend and I were here a
A friend and I were here a few months back…. We parked right at the entrance behind another car. I had read on other sites that the nuns may or may not give us permission. I knocked on the door of what looked like the main building and rang the doorbell. After a few silent minutes we decided to go right in. In and out, no problems. As we were leaving, a truck drove up to the gate, unlocked it, drove it, and relocked it. Seemed to be maintenance
A friend and I were here a
A friend and I were here a few months back…. We parked right at the entrance behind another car. I had read on other sites that the nuns may or may not give us permission. I knocked on the door of what looked like the main building and rang the doorbell. After a few silent minutes we decided to go right in. In and out, no problems. As we were leaving, a truck drove up to the gate, unlocked it, drove it, and relocked it. Seemed to be maintenance
Holly Land, Waterburry, CT
I loved going there as a child, with my now deceased, Grandmother: Louise Rose Giannini’Daniels. it was my favorite place to go with her, i miss them both.
Holly Land, Waterburry, CT
I loved going there as a child, with my now deceased, Grandmother: Louise Rose Giannini’Daniels. it was my favorite place to go with her, i miss them both.
Holly Land, Waterburry, CT
I loved going there as a child, with my now deceased, Grandmother: Louise Rose Giannini’Daniels. it was my favorite place to go with her, i miss them both.
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